Innovation is often catalyzed by those who cross a conventional line so firmly drawn between the arts and the sciences.
Edward Said, You must have cool pictures to prove your statement, serious art attempts the impossible, and really serious art is doomed to fail.
As artist we always drew the line on what you could and you couldn't do, but some don't have that line that they won't cross.
New York Burning
I was convinced notwithstanding, by the arguments of this page.